Using Shadowform a second time will cause Mind Spike to transform into "Mind Shatter", which deals an extra point of damage. first priority is keeping all dots out. It is shadow and frost. Developer note from the offical 10. they don't run mind spike and they enjoy playing w/o it. The math was kindly provided by Linelo. use void form with if you want to play mindflay. Nobody that’s actually good excluding a few likes the mind spike playstyle. The other talent this is. WoWNoob Discord - Same community, different platform. Priest Dragonflight Shadow. Cool, thank you. Cast Mind Blast on cooldown. For this reason it is suggested you take Mind Spike if you are looking for overall damage. Generates 8 Insanity (was 6). GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. 2022: Made some parts of the rotation around Mind Blast easier to read. active this was anywhere from 700-400 dps loss depending on reforging. Before Mind Spike appeared to be the default AoE filler interacting with Psychic Link, which was fine by me. Or maybe it’s the first talent in the tree and you can choose one or the other. Mind Spike's damage only. Hex is a staple Warlock spell that deals extra damage on successful attacks. Cast Mind Spike to reduce the cast time of your next Mind Blast. It does not specifically tell you when you should be casting a filler, but if you have nothing else to press it will tell you how to prioritize Mind Spike vs. But in The Mandalorian Season 3 Episode 3, the term got an entirely new definition. Shadow had mind blast and mind spike procs throughout MoP and WoD, also the “proc” you get after casting devouring plague isn’t a proc. Mind Flay (Spammable) - Allows you to spam the keybind without the spell overlapping. Cast Mind Spike with Surge of Darkness procs. So it not matter if clip unless clip first tick before second tick, then lose lot of DPS. Rank 1: Your Mind Flay and Mind Spike critical strikes reduce the cooldown of Shadowfiend by 3 sec or Mindbender by 1 sec. In dungeons, you don’t take mind spike at all so don’t need to worry. Those 1% is more or less the frequency I see resists on other spells, I suppose, especially if attacking lower level mobs, but Mind Flay seems to miss a lot more. It feels so lack luster. 5 seconds, which Haste reduces. Note that periodic damage means not only DoTs, but also channeled spells like Void Torrent and Mind Flay, as noted by their absence from Effect #1 in the Spell Details chart. 1. Generates 12 Insanity over the duration. Point is to make it clear that Mind Spike is simply a tool for a specific type of situation that belongs outside the normal gameplay loop. We’re adding Mind Flay to Psychic Link, so that talenting into Mind Spike is not required to have an AoE filler spell. The consequence of Shadow going FOTM was that it made it harder for Disc and Holy to get into keys because Shadow brings the same exact toolkit. With enough Spell Damage, a Rank 1 Mind Flay can actually out perform the best Wand in the game, even with Wand Specialization, and with enough MP5, is essentially a free Cast. Interrupt this whenever another spell becomes available. Dark Accession should increase damage of everything except dot. 0 shadow was fun, there were too many players crying for a full redesign though when it was undertuned when all they needed to address was mind flay vs mind spike and shadow crash. In the Priest Specialization Abilities category. . Mind Flay: InsanityAssaults the target's mind with Shadow energy, causing (457. I don’t think anyone has actually tested that. 2022: Moved racials out of the rotation into their own section. WoWHead - The largest database, this should be your go-to (don't forget to read the comment section!). Spamming Mind Spike will do about as much damage as casting Mind Flay on a target afflicted with Shadow Word: Pain. 1. Cast Halo. Alternatively, use it when shadow locked. Interrupt this whenever another spell becomes available. This was already done at the beginning of Dragonflight and every player gravitated towards the better dps option, which was mind. I recommend dotting up your target, then using Mind Flay for maximum damage. Void Torrent damage increased by 15%. Mind Flay damage increased by 20%. Mental Decay - Spell - 10. For the time being, this seems to spell the demise of Mind Spike for burst damage. If you want to do endgame content at a decent level, you HAVE to play the meta unless you. Love that build. 1 reworks the class, removing its clunky AoE spender in favor of focusing most of its AoE into (Spell #199484), among other changes. Flay is actually better than spike next tier because we need the talent points to reach stuff for the tier set and the changes to insanity procs meant we don’t clip the flays as much. After all, if the DoT doesn't have time to get off a couple ticks, it's a. DP makes Mind Flay deal 80% more damage for 5 seconds, which means the "mind flay feels forced" thing is still going to be prevalent. Mind Flay damage increased by 10%. Mind Spike will likely sim with a higher number, however, if you consider the following scenarios, Mind Flay is actually a more practical spell and will most likely outperform Mind Spike in many scenarios:. cause non-instant Mind Spike to trigger Glyph of Mind Spike on the Priest, reduce cast time of next Mind Blast within 9 sec by 50%, stack for 2 times. {"payload":{"allShortcutsEnabled":false,"fileTree":{"profiles/Tier29":{"items":[{"name":"T29_Death_Knight_Blood. In combination with Mind Flay. Ahh well tho, hopefully it gets better with higher ilvls soon. Crypto If the argument is having both Mind Flay and Mind Spike available at the same time creates a situation where sometimes you use one and sometimes you use the other… then that alone is reason enough to not have Mind Spike replace Mind Flay because you would use both as they both have unique enough reasons to use one over the other. Patch 7. 10. Avoid any discussion on mental health and choose options based on building a relationship with him. There are situations where MS and MF. No longer replaces Mind Flay or deals additional damage with [Mind Blast]. Again, you’re limiting options by just having one set of talents that work with mind flay and another set of talents which work with mind spike. Demography-tichondrius. Mind Spike does not make any attacks, and does not trigger Hex. However it's always good to use these instant cast mind spike while moving. It can be a hindrance more than anything if you’re trying to time keys. It will affect ALL periodic damaging spells, including Mind Sear, Mind Flay, etc. Also use mind flay to fake kicks, you can often get some value off of that, where faking kicks with mind blast gets you no value. It seems like a very simple change of making mind spike do increased damage to targets without dots, and just not. god shadow feels awful to play after the patch. Please report the post above if it breaks one of our >rules<. It's spamming Mind Blast too much. Mind Flay: InsanityAssaults the target's mind with Shadow energy, causing (457. If you really hate spike that much, you can drop these two points for Voidtouched and another flex point, all sims and data. BrilliantMachine2726. Every time last that, you can essentially cast Mind Spike + your 1st level spell of choice for the same 2nd level slot. All processes are up, no cooldowns which to care of--Mind Flay damage increased by 15% (this includes Mind Flay: Insanity, but not the proc from Idol of C’Thun). Numerically, Mind Sear is stronger than Psychic Link on 3+ targets. Does not apply to damage from Shadowy Apparitions, Shadow Word: Pain, and Vampiric Touch. Mind spike and mind flay are mostly fillers with nearly the same function. Shadow has been FOTM since the MDI. I also think that the mind flay talents being recommended by sims are overrated in practice. Priests have enjoyed the unique experience of being sought after in Season 2 of Mythic+ due to. Before current patch mind spike was optional so I wasnt too concerned but now its effectively mandatory which was something i was worried about returning. dark ascension is great for a mindspike build. 02:35 AM. That cannot change till they remowe it from the tree. Dark Archangel: The Wings Spec. However, with MoP, the Shadow Mastery Mastery: Madness acts to add extra ticks to Mind Flay, directly increasing its damage (but not. Cast Mind Spike or Mind Flay; Cast Divine Star, Shadow Word: Death or Shadow Word: Pain if you are moving. Mind Flay has a base channel time of 4. Devouring Plague still has its terrible vanilla particles, Mind Spike still has its terrible Cataclysm particles, and Mind Spike: Insanity doesn’t even get unique particles like Mind Flay: Insanity does. Cast Mind Blast whenever available to generate Insanity. Mind Flay and Mind Sear from Idol of C’Thun, Echoing Void from Idol of N’Zoth, and Void Torrent now have 5 percent damage variance. " Adding a secondary effect to Heroic Leap, like a Thunder Clap or letting you get out of roots might be a good role for a glyph. Idol of Y’shaarj increases damage done by 5% when Mindbender is summoned on a feared target (was 15%). It also provides the priest with a. I personally en…Im getting a little concerned with the number of active abilities shadow priests are getting in dragonflight. Valdivion-malganis. Rather than focusing on loaded definitions, let’s just talk about what Mind Flayers are and what they do. Classes. Shadow's cooldowns have also received some additions and changes, with Void Eruption both changing to a two minute cooldown and becoming an optional spell thanks to the addition. 9. Aside the low damage mind spike has another problem. Balanced-boulderfist. Either right side tree with Mind Spike as your filler and you ignore Mind Flay, or you go left side of the tree and don't talent Mind Spike. Mind Spike damage increased by 9 percent and now replaces Mind Flay. Feel free to improve anything you guys want and thank you for this great community. Again, you’re limiting options by just having one set of talents that work with mind flay and another set of talents which work with mind spike. If you're looking to burn real fast, Mind Spike is helpful. Bro, the best range with the most damage and survivability in game right now is the Mage. Generates 16 Insanity over the. I. Then learn to operate both abilities using different keys rather than macroing them together. WoW Hotfixes - Updated October 13Considering Mind Spike's anti-DoT effect and Mind Flay's useful snare, the only situation I can therefore see Mind Spike being useful for (besides From Darkness Comes Light procs) is nuking totems, and when Shadow is locked, due to Mind Spike's Shadowfrost school. . So has anyone figured out when it's a good time to use Mind Spike? Since now it clears dots, I won't be using it in PVP or PVE, since I want to keep pressure on my enemy in PVP, and in PVE it hurts to break the flow of Mind Flay. Twistinfate offered the general consensus of the priest discord right now, which is that the mind sear bonus damage for ST is outweighed by the insanity loss. Generates 12 Insanity over the duration. As you may be able to tell, the duration of Mind Flay is triple that of the global cooldown. You can read all changes to 10. Major Spike Scallion is the final Merc which you can recruit in Jagged Alliance 3. Mind Flay with Mind Melt and Idol of C'Thun. Priests have enjoyed the unique experience of being sought after in Season 2 of Mythic+ due to. Both of these spells are spammable filler spells, that require you to plant, existing at the bottom of your rotation priority and contribute little to your overall dps. When doing the rotation normally, Mind Flay or Mind Spike is your filler spell. The buff lasts for 10 seconds, so don't use it right away if you're capped on MB. Mind Spike damage is now increased by 25% in PvP combat (was reduced by 25%). It’s really unhealthy. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Mind Spike is a priest ability learned at level 44 for those with the Shadow specialization. This is very. 19% of Spell Power ] Shadow damage over 3 sec and slowing their movement speed by 70%. Your direct damage spells inflict 15% of their damage on all other targets afflicted by your Vampiric Touch within 40 yards. Im getting a little concerned with the number of active abilities shadow priests are getting in dragonflight. You also play Mind Flay: Insanity so you still need to cast flay to use those after every plague cast. 1. 21Fully deplete all Mind Blast charges unless Mind Devourer is active. Blizzard, it is not the 1st of April yet! Please tell us that this is another of your out of seasons Aprils fools jokes! I still find it hard to believe what Blizzard is planning to do to SP. It’s easily their most iconic ability. Void Bolt is also currently the only way to extend your DoTs, which is extremely useful in m+. I’m fairly certain you don’t just overcap and ignore it over and over for other spells, letting stacks rot. The unfortunate part here is that you need to have a 90 on Wisdom in order to recruit Flay properly. If you cancel spike half way through, you get no damage. Mind Flay damage increased by 10%. (4) Set Bonus: Smite has a 100% chance to cast an additional time during Shadow Covenant, dealing Shadow. Casting Devouring Plague increases the duration of Voidform by 2. It always feels like I’m doing something wrong, mostly because with all the procs I feel like i just have too much to press. 2. You can also weave Silence, Psychic Horror, and Psychic Scream in where necessary to keep the enemy team controlled. Drain life looks much better; Mind blast vs Shadow bolt. Mind Soothe feels better than ever. That way we can still benefit from our mastery, which is already quite useless, and shadowy. It could also only let you move at 50% speed or something. Dark Ascension, Voidform with something emulating the extension mechanic, Mind Spike, Surge of Darkness, Shadowy Insight, Mind Flay: Insanity, even a version of Shadow's Cataclysm mastery Shadow Orbs appears in this new version of the spec. Where are you getting this stuff from? Edit again: There are. They went from being a rare occurrence to being in almost 70% of the groups for high keys. When interrupted while casting a single-school spell such as Mind Flay or Frostbolt, players will now be able to cast dual-school spells such as Mind Spike (Frost and Shadow schools) or Frostfire Bolt (Frost and Fire schools). Mind Flay (Talent in Shadow) Mind Flay is one of the most Mana Efficient Spells in the Shadow Priest toolkit. If none of these things are true, hit mind flay. simc","path":"profiles/Tier29/T29_Death_Knight_Blood. The two biggest differences are the addition of Mind Spike as an optional Single Target filler spell to replace Mind Flay, as well as the removal of as an AoE spender. I'm really wondering what good mind spike is for, to be honest, other then the few times we get school-locked in pvp. I feel like there’s no room in the rotation to fit a full Mind Flay before using another Devouring Plague, especially with the increased duration. Plater: Nameplate Addon (A good nameplate addon is probably the most important addon you can have as a Shadow Priest, or any spec that have to handle. dark ascension is great for a mindspike build. Mind flay build actually seems kinda ok, wish the tentacles spawned more though. this fact leave Mind Flay as the only choice as a filler in normal DPS rotation when every other spell is on CD. Mindgames and vampiric touch are the only casted dots with SW:pain baked into touch, devouring plague is the only spender and the build is largely keep the dots up, spam mind spike and use it for lots of instant mind blasts, mind spikes and SW: death's. Does not require shapeshift. It feels so lack luster. Mind Spike: Insanity generates 6 Insanity (was 8) Mental Decay now also increases the damage of Mind Flay and Mind Spike by 10%. I must have misunderstood the patch notes and was feeling pretty bummed since I thought they’d removed one of the spec’s most iconic spells lol. Also look at the talents which mean that mind flay increases your dot damage. Also, it will always go after the Priest so the tank has to immediately taunt it. Put these points into Dark Evangelism and Voidtouched. Allow Class Ability Procs. They spent how long “redesigning” the class just to remove cd’s so you can mash more buttons. Rip Mind Sear. Mind sear was removed. Patch 10. Same story on AoE. You typically want to start thinking about recasting Mind Flay about halfway through the channel. There is no using voidform. If you cast Mage Armor at the beginning of the day, once you cast Mind Spike once, you'll have negated the spell slot loss to Mage Armor by dealing damage. Vasharaah-moon-guard. 1 patch you can reduce the cost of casting by 15% of it's already low cast, becoming extremely mana efficient as far as damage output goes. As a Shadow Priest, Mind Flay will become your most oft used offensive ability. I only use it on instant for burst to build into instant mindblast. We have moved to Warcraft Wiki. Would be great if mind spike was acctually an enjoyable button to press but it’s caca-doodoo. It feels so lack luster. This as a whole declutters the filler rotation which is good in that sense. So the clock is ticking, and raid testing has begun. Considering Mind Spike's anti-DoT effect and Mind Flay's useful snare, the only situation I can therefore see Mind Spike being useful for (besides From Darkness Comes Light procs) is nuking totems, and when Shadow is locked, due to Mind Spike's Shadowfrost school. For the time being, this seems to spell the demise of Mind Spike for burst damage. Improved pathing in the general tree. Your direct damage spells inflict 15% of their damage on all other targets afflicted by your Vampiric Touch within 40 yards. Endless micro CC (eg. 20Cast Mind Flay: Insanity. 19% of Spell Power ] Shadow damage over 3 sec and slowing their movement speed by 70%. Cool, thank you. Mind Spike provides a quick nuke to use in situations where the priest doesn't have time to set up the normal rotation, such as when adds are dying too fast or you have to swap targets a lot. Generates 15. The number of spells/rotation spriest has is intimidating at first glance. My group has been debating about the description of Mind Spike for a couple of sessions now. we’ve lost so many things that made the spec flow. "Deals Shadowfrost damage and puts a debuff on the target that improves subsequent Mind Spike damage. You know its going to happenIn some quick testing, I found my best damage on single target came from a build which was juggling both Mind Flay and Mind Spike casts, which is perfect, in my opinion. Casting flay and cutting it short on the gcd whenever a more important spell becomes available is more flexible than spamming mind spike. Dark Ascension also has its original Cataclysm particles, but people seem to like them even if they are super dated and we could have. Where you play the way before Shadow Orbs or Voidform was a thing. Stay up to date with all the latest news with Wowhead News Notifications! Get Wowhead. Wanting to keep the player involved and mindful of what is happening can lead to bloat and proc proc proc based reaction/priority based buttons vs spamming the same thing all over again. Addons used: Weakauras: The entire center group is Weakauras and includes all the Spells, the Insanity bar and the Castbar and everything else you can think of. Coz ppl wanted spike back. 0 shadow was fun, there were too many players crying for a full redesign though when it was undertuned when all they needed to address was mind flay vs mind spike and shadow crash. Lasts 20 sec. Balanced-boulderfist. 557%. But here's a compromise: make a glyph that allows Shadow Word: Pain to stay on the target when we use Mind Spike. 3 (2016-07-19. XBL: Edge4o7. Make Mindbender a permanent pet that cleaves like BM hunters pets. Before current patch mind spike was optional so I wasnt too concerned but now its effectively mandatory which was something i was worried about returning. Balanced-boulderfist. Opener: Causes ticks of Mind Flay to extend Shadow Word: Pain and Vampiric Touch by 1 second or 2 seconds with Mind Spike. Can be used while sitting. Here is a sumary of what made the. If there is a movement where the above-explained stutter stepping does not cover it entirely, the second most ideal way to deal with movement is to use some ability while moving. Mind Spike: Holy Word: Chastise: Holy Nova: Purge the Wicked: Void Torrent: Devouring Plague: Inescapable Torment: Mindgames: Holy Fire: Mind Flay: Vampiric Touch. patch notes: Button bloat: Shadow has more rotational abilities than most other specializations. Mind Spike also now replaces Mind Flay when taken, reducing the number of filler spells Shadow has and greatly simplifying its Single Target rotation. Developers’ note: The rotation has a lot going on and much of that is due to the frequency that Mind Flay: Insanity and Mind Spike: Insanity are available, so we’re adjusting the frequency of the effect. Scrambling for every 0. And what i mean by wasting is you arent able to use every. Dark Evangelism can now also be triggered by Mind Spike. Mind Spike also increases the critical strike chance of your next Mind Blast on the target by 30%. For fights such as the Spine of Deathwing in Dragon Soul, Vampric Embrace helps relieve your party members of the healing debuff faster. Mind Flay is an old iconic SP spell. Row 7 Talents. For fights such as the Spine of Deathwing in Dragon Soul, Vampric Embrace helps relieve your party members of the healing debuff faster. Mind Flayers start off their lives as mindless little tadpoles that swim around in the Elder Brain’s pool. Dispel Magic enemy buffs. ago. 1 Like. I was critical striking with Mind Blast for over 100k when most non tank Hp pools were hovering around 150k. Dark Evangelism can now also be triggered by Mind Spike. We also have. The change. 21Fully deplete all Mind Blast charges. Mind Flay, including. Mind Flay and Mind Sear from Idol of C’Thun, Echoing Void from Idol of N’Zoth, and Void Torrent now have 5% damage variance. Shadow Priest Needs Another Rework Background Regardless of what you want to call it, rework or not, Shadow Priest has design issues that are causing friction with playing the spec and keeps going through waves of harmful balancing changes. Mind Spike seems to be a much better alternative than both Mind Flay and Mind Blast. Having mind flay and mind spike at the same time is gerbage. Be sure to make use of the 'Copy Export String' button to import the build directly into your game! 5. All of these nerfs on top of being one of the only casters that has to cast(and basically 1 school, while sure you have mind spike its being made worse with the surge of insanity nerfs) this makes me feel like. The Mind Flay bug—for those who know what it is and thus care about this post—was a deep-woven bug in the game programming that took the devs some time to fix. World of Warcraft Forums I’ve read them and don’t feel like its a good direction for the class. According to the Priest discord taking flay over spike is a 1-3% DPS loss in most situations. Shadow is wonderful, easy damage. . 1 PTR Class Tuning Hotfixes – Mage Changes! Live Posted 2023/04/21 at 1:42 PM by Squishei. If enemies are dying quicker, you should prioritize direct damage spells like Mind Flay, Mind Spike, and Mind Blast. Mind Spike and Mind Flay coexisting is something we’re going to try but are wary of. Then, after building up to 4 shadow orbs, you hold down the ctrl key. Cast Mind Flay (or mind spike if talented) as filler AoE: Dot everything with Shadow Crash Cast Mind Sear with enough insanity Cast Mind Blast on cooldown Cast Mind Flay (or mind spike if talented) as filler Then you have cooldowns like PI / Shadowfiend, but every class has a burst rotation. " It could potentially be that the first hit of mind spike is equal to a MF, but after that it starts hitting for more and more. Generates 6 Insanity. Then letting your mana regen while your. Mind Spike does not make any attacks, and does not trigger Hex. That’s cool it’s still here. 5 sec. Mind Spike damage increased by 9 percent and now replaces Mind Flay. Either option performs well. Buttons feel worthless. 87% of Spell power) Shadow damage over 3 sec and slowing their movement speed by 70%. They spent how long “redesigning” the class just to remove cd’s so you can mash more buttons. Unfurling Darkness and Mental Decay have swapped positions on the talent tree. You don't lose the insanity proc if you have to move vs. Glyph of Mind Spike Glyph of Mind Spike no longer synergizes with From Darkness, Comes Light - to provide free Mind Blast casts much of the time. Make Mind blast spread VT Make Shadowword death spread SW:P. Mind spike feels very awkward to use right now, even considering the bug. Heartshade-echo-isles September 29, 2022, 8:52pm #2. Feels like a button mashing simulator to do mediocre damage. Mind Spike is primarily for enemies which will die soon so that dots will not tick longer. Mind Flay: Insanity Assaults the target's mind with Shadow energy, causing [ 352. And ofc the old mind flay talent was soo good back when we had shadow orbs. 4 Piece Priest Shadow 10. Pact Magic spells are always cast at the highest level possible, which increases up to level 5. You can't get a surge proc. The Mind Flay bug—for those who know what it is and thus care about this post—was a deep-woven bug in the game programming that took the devs some time to fix. Rayneon-illidan May 3, 2023, 4:19pm #4. Dejaro December 12, 2022, 2:19pm 1. you should never be pressing mind flay. Your rough filler priority for this fight will be below, but check out the rotation guide for more details. Add back Cascade instead of halo and. Your filler in PvP is dispell magic while using instant proc mind spikes and mind blasts with spread rot damage. Mind Flay would be broke as heck if you could move, but it’d give some sort of perk vs Mind Spike. shadow_fiend. . Pain of death for SW Death in rotation (only in escapeable torment or when target below 20% hp) Most buffs/CD's will glow while active. And most of the time you had several abilities you could press. 3) Change the IDs in the bot on Mind Flay to do Smite. 2-3 Enemies (that will live a reasonable length of time) Devouring Plague (with 3 OR MORE orbs) Mind Blast (with LESS THAN 5 orbs)Use Mind Blast on cooldown (very important), spam Mind Spike (not so important) in between and cast Devouring Plage when you have between 3 and 5 orb and it seems like a good idea to do so. Cast Mind Blast; Cast Void Torrent if you have all DoTs on your target (make sure to use all Mind Blast and Shadow Word: Death charges before Void Torrent to. Mind Blast only better for them if clip second tick away only do 3rd damage. Do not mind spike the boss (except for extreme. Dark Evangelism can now also be triggered by Mind Spike. Mind Flay: Insanity has been renamed to Surge of Insanity. Mind flay vs Drain life. Options with this build: Mind Flay version: Drop Mind Spike and Mind Melt . $2. 1 Like. Valdivion-malganis. 18Cast Void Torrent. 5 seconds, which Haste reduces. Mind Flay version: Drop Mind Spike, Mind Melt, and one point of Mind Devourer. SWD or a proc when moving. Spamming Mind Spike will do about as much damage as casting Mind Flay on a target afflicted with Shadow Word: Pain. Here is a sumary of what made the. Can accumulate up to 2 charges. Mind Spike: Insanity damage reduced by 11 percent and. If Mind Spike stays better it will mean Mind Flay is only used to refresh DoTs or with other talents buffing its interactions like Mind Flay: Insanity. Allow Aura On Level Scale. Can accumulate up to 2 charges. WOTLK-WEAKAURA. CryptoIf the argument is having both Mind Flay and Mind Spike available at the same time creates a situation where sometimes you use one and sometimes you use the other… then that alone is reason enough to not have Mind Spike replace Mind Flay because you would use both as they both have unique enough reasons to use one over. IDGAF about balance, if Mind Spike is available and it isn’t optimal to channeling mind flay, I’d still use Mind Spike. Mind Flay: Insanity Assaults the target's mind with Shadow energy, causing [ 352. In the current build, Dark Accession only help mind blast, which is extremely weak. Shadow Priest Talent Trees in Dragonflight Season 3 Dragonflight brought with it huge changes to talents, bringing new talent trees to life and allowing vast customization with them. They went from being a rare occurrence to being in almost 70% of the groups for high keys. But all of the builds I tested did quite similar damage, which is great as well. We all have different ideas about how specific the knowledge of the target's location should be. In the current state of spriest u barely use mind flay (never). Mind flay build actually seems kinda ok, wish the tentacles spawned more though. Mind Spike: Insanity damage reduced by 11% and generates 6 Insanity (was 8). It could also only let you move at 50% speed or something. The consequence of Shadow going FOTM was that it made it harder for Disc and Holy to get. They were super overpowered earlier this season but they are definitely much more in line now, and I’m saying this because I feel like Shadow is generally one of the more fun specs to play vs when its good But they are nerfing PI, MD, Mind Flay: Insanity(and also Mind Spike: Insanity) and they nerfed their defensives this current patch All of these. Additionally it blurs the lines of when to use Mind Flay and when to use Mind Spike. We don't like to glyph new high level.